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Old 01-14-2012, 06:23 PM
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Beautiful write-up, Steve. The only thing I'd change is to add a note on the CCT adjustment to the end of it. I haven't done the shims on my bike yet, but it seems like that will be a critical step of the reassembly.

And Phil....my 5-year-old saw that pic and laughed his butt off.
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Old 01-14-2012, 07:13 PM
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So.... who's going to post the picture tutorial with the MP tool?
Actually, I did one about 12 years ago. Haven't been active here for a long time but have been dropping in lately to have a peek around. Glad to see this forum is still going strong.

The web page I did needs updating, but I'm not sure I remember the password. Everything is there, but it's a bit of a mess.

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Old 01-14-2012, 08:55 PM
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I have used the tool, it works. And it is a good choice if your changing one or two shims. IMO, if your changing out more than that, then for time purposes, I would use one method or another of the cam methods.

Not against the tool, just my experiences.
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:17 PM
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my 5-year-old saw that pic and laughed his butt off
The kid's got a good sense of humor...
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:41 PM
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Yep, there's another one of those ground-on-to-make-fit MP tools....
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Old 01-14-2012, 10:47 PM
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WOW, not only is my bike "Special" but I must be "Special" too. Am I the only one who can use this tool right out of the box on all 8 valves with no mods or problems
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:04 AM
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Almost the same...

...as our Elevens, but IMHO some good info and pics for those that have never done the job yet. Actually I did both my XS11 and XJ750 at the same time and swapped shims around on both engines as they are the same diameter

http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=14827.html

http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=29209.html

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Old 01-15-2012, 05:03 AM
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WOW, not only is my bike "Special" but I must be "Special" too. Am I the only one who can use this tool right out of the box on all 8 valves with no mods or problems
+1 I must be Special too.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:18 AM
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Well, it looks like at the end of the season I'll be replacing all of the shims AND the cam chain. So, I probably won't find out if I'm "special".
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:28 AM
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I was just reading your cam chain post Marty. Before you go ordering a new chain, check and make sure all the sliders are OK. As in not XSively worn or broken. JAT

Those roller chains aren't really prone to wear. I replaced a timing chain in a Mazda V6 just the other day and the chain was the same as what's in our engines, just longer. The chain was actually fine, the tensioner had gone south.
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Old 01-15-2012, 06:40 AM
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Tool

Not that special my tools worked out of box also. I think that it can be tuff to get the tool into position on some valves but if you take care its better than pulling the cams for most people. I agree that if you are in a situation where you have multiple valves to get set the cam pull works but in a one or two adjustment I would not use the cam pull method.
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Old 01-15-2012, 07:31 AM
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I was just reading your cam chain post Marty. Before you go ordering a new chain, check and make sure all the sliders are OK. As in not XSively worn or broken. JAT
How do I check the sliders? If they are bad, the cam chain damper is NLA. has anyone here come up with a trick to repair it? Does the engine have to be disassembled to remove and replace it? Will my engine be making a lot of noise if the plastic material is gone?

I'm going to move this over to the cam chain wear post as well.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:06 AM
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Just gor giggles

I went out to the man cave and got my Yamaha shim tool and my MP shim tool out. I tried both on a head I have lying about. Both will work but the MP is quite a bit harder to use. I got to comparing the two and thought you all may like to see what I found. Here is a pic of the two side by side in a vice. Sorry the pic is not clearer but I am not much of a photographer. This may explain why so many have to grind the MP tool. The Mp tool is the top and blackest one. I had never tried the MP one before today and it was a suprise that it sucked so badly.

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Old 01-15-2012, 10:32 AM
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My MP tool doesn't look like either one of those.

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Kinda like the one on top but the angle of the tip is different.
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Old 01-15-2012, 10:35 AM
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My Mp one says ... MP above the numbers 08-0020. Is yours different?
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